Mark Boulton

30 Responses to “A week with Camino”

1. 
   Eddie Sowden said on: January 8th, 2006 at 1:30 pm

   Cam­ino does indeed rock because of the way it is so light­weight. I some­times wish that it had more extra fea­tures. How­ever, if they were added it would only slow down a cool browser.

2. 
   Steve Williams said on: January 8th, 2006 at 1:50 pm

   I down­loaded Cam­ino a few months ago after read­ing about it at Roger Johansson’s blog, and it really is a great browser! 

   You’ve summed up my first impres­sions of it per­fectly with the words light­weight and fast…

   I’d like to see a ‘one-click-to-subscribe’ but­ton for RSS feeds (maybe they’ve added one since my down­load?) but other than that I really like it. 

   I’ve never got on with FF for Mac, which to me is unstable and slow. And I can’t stand the unwanted page flip­ping when I acci­dent­ally scroll my track­pad left/right when mov­ing up/down the page — arghh!!! So, I’m all for Camino!

3. 
   Chris said on: January 8th, 2006 at 2:00 pm

   I just switched over to Cam­ino this week, myself.  I quite like it.  It is, as you say, very spry.  How­ever, I wish it had some devel­op­ment tools included or avail­able as a plug-in.  I miss Safari’s Activ­ity win­dow.  I also miss Firefox’s javas­criptcon­sole.  Both of which I use quite a bit when I’m try­ing to fig­ure out what I did wrong.

   Other than that, it’s fant­astic for nor­mal browsing.

4. 
   Mark Boulton said on: January 8th, 2006 at 2:03 pm

   The only thing I’m really miss­ing at the moment is the Developers Tool­bar for Fire­fox, which is damn handy. 

   It’s a credit to Cam­ino that that is the only thing I’m miss­ing though.

5. 
   macsterdam said on: January 8th, 2006 at 2:07 pm

   I’m won­der­ing what’s wrong with Omni­web? I’d hardly call it bloated really. To me it does feel like a proper Mac applic­a­tion and some of it’s fea­tures are won­der­ful, like it’s tabs. Speed, of course, is ter­rible, but that will be fixed shortly with the 5.5 release which will et the new Safari engine.

6. 
   Alex Hutton said on: January 8th, 2006 at 2:18 pm

   I lost the candy-coated but­tons and added some­thing more safari-esque by using a free­ware util­ity.  My prob­lem with the earlier releases was the lack of a little but­ton that let me add a site’s RSS feed to Net­News­Wire.  I don’t want to have to go hunt­ing all over a web page look­ing for their RSS but­tons (see:  http://worldofkane.blogspot.com/ for example).

7. 
   J?rgen Arnor G?rds? Lom said on: January 8th, 2006 at 2:26 pm

   I went over from FF to Cam­ino just the other day, when FF crashed (and I didn’t bother restart­ing my mac); and it’s really great!

   It’s more stable than Fire­fox and it’s one heck of a lot lighter on CPU-hogging Safari…

8. 
   Paul said on: January 8th, 2006 at 3:20 pm

   I love Cam­ino, and have gradu­ally increased it’s usage as it approaches 1.0 final.  At the moment its cur­rently in a head on fight with Safari for default browser status! 

   If it only had the fol­low­ing two fea­tures, I would die a happy man: 

   - RSS feed detec­tion (just a but­ton in the address bar like Safari would be fine — there’s no need for an integ­rated reader as that’s covered excel­lently by NewsFire!) 

   - Someone to write/port the Developer Toolbar. 

   This seems to be the com­mon con­census, and I would love to see pro­gress in these areas as the app moves towards 1.1. 

   (BTW, I’m lov­ing the new com­ment form Mark, very nice, very nice indeed!)

9. 
   J?rgen Arnor G?rds? Lom said on: January 8th, 2006 at 3:58 pm

   That’s very true, Paul… Cam­ino need RSS sup­port! I hate the way Fire­fox does it though… Noone’s going to use “live book­marks”. If people have installed Net­News­Wire or News­Fire, it prob­ably means they want to use that instead of some flimsy browser-feature…

   Safari has under­stood that… Fire­fox and Cam­ino needs to do so as well..!

10. 
    Jon Hicks said on: January 8th, 2006 at 5:53 pm

    RSS feed detec­tion is on the way, as is some sort of spell check­ing mech­an­ism, although port­ing the Web Developer tool­bar is a little more dis­tant. At least all the Fire­fox book­mark­lets work!

11. 
    Dan said on: January 8th, 2006 at 6:12 pm

    I’m cur­rently using Safari as my main browser but I really want to use Cam­ino more but I love the Stand exten­sion for safari which adds omin­web like tabs to the left hand side of the page. 

    I would agree Fire­fox doesn’t feel like a proper OS X app yet, but hope­fully it will improve. 

    Cam­ino is very fast, which is really nice but it would be cool if there were a few add ons for it such as the omni­web style tags, I’m assum­ing there aren’t any like that around? 

    I would like to give omni­web a real thrash­ing some­time soon as see if it is worth the money, but I’m not too keen on pay­ing for a browser when there are free altern­at­ives around that may well be better?

12. 
    John Oxton said on: January 8th, 2006 at 6:50 pm

    Since switch­ing to OS X, Cam­ino is my browser of choice. I just don’t like Safari and not for want of try­ing . Cam­ino is quick, clean and just feels good. I am huge fan. 

    Wish­list, Web developer tool­bar, inbuilt RSS, Grease­mon­key and spellcheck (draw­ing straight from OS X’s inbuilt spellcheck would be sweet)…

    yup I am mak­ing this com­ment in Cam­ino so ‘scuse the smelling moosetakes.

13. 
    Mark said on: January 8th, 2006 at 7:30 pm

    I’m miss­ing the Exten­sions func­tion­al­ity entirely. Not just Web Dev Tool­bar, but Web­mail Com­pose as well.

14. 
    Andy said on: January 8th, 2006 at 8:11 pm

    Hands up from another Cam­ino user. Like John Oxton, I’ve really tried to like Safari, but Cam­ino does it for me. 

    With its lack of stand-out fea­tures, I does make me won­der why. But maybe that is it — the reason I like it is because it is just a browser. A very fast, very reli­able browser.

    When I develop, Fire­fox gets a rare out­ing for its dev tool­bar fea­tures, but day to day, noth­ing is run­ning Cam­ino close. 

    Wish­list — in case they are listen­ing — are pretty straight for­ward: adding the right-click ‘Search in Google’, mak­ing type-ahead find more like Firefox.

15. 
    Ben Scott said on: January 8th, 2006 at 9:02 pm

    not sure if i agree about cam­ino being bet­ter than firefox. 

    have you tried ver­sion 1.5 of fire­fox, it is a sign­fic­ant improve­ment and seems to not crash out anymore. 

    if you are look­ing for an rss reader there is always Sage RSS reader

16. 
    Josue Salazar said on: January 8th, 2006 at 11:35 pm

    All i need is some­thing like Ses­sion Saver for Cam­ino. With that (and the upcom­ing RSS fea­tures) it’s going to be one hell of an option.

17. 
    paul haine said on: January 9th, 2006 at 12:13 pm

    I like Cam­ino, but I’d like it more if it came with an ‘undo’ func­tion for when I acci­dent­ally close a tab. Safari (or at least, Safari with Saft) and Opera both do this and it’s fant­astic — Opera even saves the his­tory of that tab.

18. 
    John Zeratsky said on: January 9th, 2006 at 7:04 pm

    I don’t use Cam­ino for one reason—no spell check.

19. 
    Chris said on: January 9th, 2006 at 7:24 pm

    I hadn’t noticed that yet.  Sud­denly Cam­ino isn’t look­ing so hot.  The ren­der­ing might be quick but the over­all util­ity of the browser at this stage is some­what lack­ing and leaves much to be desired (evid­enced by the above com­ments) for those who really use their browser.

20. 
    paul haine said on: January 9th, 2006 at 11:49 pm

    Cam­ino does seem to have a spellcheck, though weirdly it only seems to be in the address bar…

21. 
    J?rgen Arnor G?rds? Lom said on: January 10th, 2006 at 1:17 pm

    …and the searchfield…

22. 
    Mark said on: January 11th, 2006 at 3:06 am

    I’ve got another one for usability… 

    Every browser I’ve ever used refreshes on F5 and jumps to the loc­a­tion bar on F6. Camino…nada. That’s a broken piece of soft­ware to me.

23. 
    J?rgen Arnor G?rds? Lom said on: January 11th, 2006 at 7:12 am

    Cmnd+R is the Mac stand­ard, Mark… Safari doesn’t refresh on F5; nor does Firefox/Mac, as far as I can remem­ber… (The damn thing won’t start up, so I really can’t say any­thing for certain…)

24. 
    Mark said on: January 12th, 2006 at 1:55 am

    Fire­fox on the Mac does sup­port the F keys. I admit being unfa­mil­iar with Safari. 

    Here’s another one to try:
    
    Escape should rep­lic­ate the func­tion­al­ity of the Stop but­ton. I open a new win­dow, it begins to load Google, set as my homepage. I hold the Esc key, see the URL switch to about:blank, high­light the loc­a­tion bar and begin typ­ing the URL I *want* to go to, and in that time Google has loaded, jumped my cursor into *its* search bar and the lat­ter 2/3s of the URL I began typ­ing goes there. 

    Escape should be Stop should be Stop loading.

25. 
    Mark Boulton said on: January 12th, 2006 at 10:55 am

    I’ve got to admit that I don’t really use key com­mands too much on a browser — other than refresh, quit and open and close tabs — they all seem to work fine with Camino.

26. 
    Rose said on: January 13th, 2006 at 1:56 am

    I was using Cam­ino at work exclus­ively for 3 weeks or so to try it out. It’s a good browser, feels bet­ter and faster than Fire­fox, but still lacks a few things that Safari has. 

    I had switched from FF to Safari when FF crashed one too many times, and now after test­ing Cam­ino, I’ve returned back to Safari. It’s just bet­ter integ­rated with the OS. I prefer hav­ing PDF files loaded in the browser instead of down­loaded to the desktop (Safari then gives you the option to open the file in Pre­view), and I, for one, use Safari for RSS feeds because it’s so much more con­veni­ent to browse the net and check your feeds using the same applic­a­tion. And I abso­lutely love Inquis­itor.

27. 
    Andy Miller said on: January 17th, 2006 at 9:35 pm

    If you are miss­ing exten­sions check out Cam­iTools and the scripts on Karl­heinz Dobler’s site http://www.nadamac.de. Not Web­Dev yet though.

28. 
    Alessandro Barbini said on: January 25th, 2006 at 5:36 pm

    I’m cur­rently test­ing Shiira (<a href:“http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/en”; target=“_blank”;>http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/en</a>) and I find this browser def­in­itely inter­est­ing.
    
    With a hint of mod­ern feng-shui and a really cute dock icon (Safari’s icon is ugly indeed), Shiira is faster than Safari, more developed than Cam­ino, and abso­lutely “Mac-looking”. It sports also a built-in RSS reader, even though I still prefer Safari’s one.

    Before I found out about Shiira, Cam­ino was my “best Safari altern­at­ive”, now I go for Shiira.
    
    Fire­fox never con­vinced me in terms of usab­il­ity, sta­bil­ity and design but it still remains an use­full tool when you have to access one of those bad-coded web­site that works with IE only.
    
    Another browser that deserves at least to be men­tioned is Flock. It’s still in “heavy devel­op­ment” but at least it the first attempt of re-thinking the over­all concept of “web browser”.

29. 
    J?rgen Arnor G?rds? Lom said on: January 25th, 2006 at 5:46 pm

    I havn’t per­son­ally tested Shiira — but it cer­tainly shows up alot in my stats… To me it does look a bit bloated… 

    And to be hon­est, it’s the stripped-down-ness that really attracts me with Camino… 

    How­ever — I’ve noticed that Cam­ino can’t handle either my online bank­ing ser­vice (both Fire­fox and Safari does, though) nor my Nuc­leus book­mark­let… ARRGH! Per­haps I should try out Shiira afterall?

30. 
    Duncan Heal said on: January 27th, 2006 at 2:36 am

    I use FF for test­ing — it’s loaded up with exten­sions — and Cam­ino for gen­eral brows­ing — love that speed. This works great as I have a uncluttered browser for every­day stuff and a fully-functional test­ing environment.