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	<title>Comments on: Carson Workshops &#8211; CSS for Designers</title>
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	<description>The Personal Disquiet of Mark Boulton</description>
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		<title>By: Molly E. Holzschlag</title>
		<link>http://www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/comments/carson-workshops-css-for-designers#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Molly E. Holzschlag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 00:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Marc! I wish I had a punchline.&#160; You did make me laugh though ;-)
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Everyone here read about @media2006? Start saving those pretty pounds my lovelies, it&#8217;s going to be a great time. The list of speakers is wonderful, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vivabit.com/atmedia2006/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.vivabit.com/atmedia2006/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc! I wish I had a punchline.&nbsp; You did make me laugh though ;-)
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Everyone here read about @media2006? Start saving those pretty pounds my lovelies, it&#8217;s going to be a great time. The list of speakers is wonderful, <a href="http://www.vivabit.com/atmedia2006/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vivabit.com/atmedia2006/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/comments/carson-workshops-css-for-designers#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Indeed. There&#8217;s me beneath Molly (insert your own punchline here).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. There&#8217;s me beneath Molly (insert your own punchline here).</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/comments/carson-workshops-css-for-designers#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Photos of the event - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carsonworkshops.com/design-dev/holzschlag_clarke/17_18NOV2005_photos.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photos of the event &#8211; <a href="http://www.carsonworkshops.com/design-dev/holzschlag_clarke/17_18NOV2005_photos.html" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Molly E. Holzschlag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly E. Holzschlag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Marc,
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Actually I think it was in part our fault. Setting expectations is important, as is meeting them. So, if that&#8217;s the outline we provided, that&#8217;s what we really were striving to deliver.
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It takes finesse, it&#8217;s not easy, and yeah, I ultimately agree: Shorten the list of topics, and try for two days in the future ;-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,
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Actually I think it was in part our fault. Setting expectations is important, as is meeting them. So, if that&#8217;s the outline we provided, that&#8217;s what we really were striving to deliver.
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It takes finesse, it&#8217;s not easy, and yeah, I ultimately agree: Shorten the list of topics, and try for two days in the future ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/comments/carson-workshops-css-for-designers#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Molly,
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Yes, it was a hard task to squeeze in the advertised content into one day.
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Not criticising what was discussed, more over I was commenting that the advertised scheduled seminar that paying attendees have come along to take part in covered 4/5ths of what was advertised as the content.

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I suggest &#8220;topics from&#8221; next time out if there is too much to cover.
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Again, no complaints at all about what was covered - but if you ordered a book from amazon that was a great read but had 20 out of 100 pages&#8230; ;-)
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Two days would have been perfect for so much content and the massively helpful interaction.
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Again, really not after seeming it was a major complaint - more a case of wanting more of the good stuff that was actually advertised (and that&#8217;s certainly not Molly and Andy&#8217;s fault!).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Molly,
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Yes, it was a hard task to squeeze in the advertised content into one day.
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Not criticising what was discussed, more over I was commenting that the advertised scheduled seminar that paying attendees have come along to take part in covered 4/5ths of what was advertised as the content.</p>
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I suggest &#8220;topics from&#8221; next time out if there is too much to cover.
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Again, no complaints at all about what was covered &#8211; but if you ordered a book from amazon that was a great read but had 20 out of 100 pages&#8230; ;-)
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Two days would have been perfect for so much content and the massively helpful interaction.
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Again, really not after seeming it was a major complaint &#8211; more a case of wanting more of the good stuff that was actually advertised (and that&#8217;s certainly not Molly and Andy&#8217;s fault!).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Boulton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Boulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I absolutely agree Molly. The amount you and Andy got through on the day was pretty astounding. To cover that much material in an even-paced workshop environment is a credit to you both.
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True, I was on the second day when you had gone through the material the day before. I guess the more you go through it, the better it will get.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree Molly. The amount you and Andy got through on the day was pretty astounding. To cover that much material in an even-paced workshop environment is a credit to you both.
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True, I was on the second day when you had gone through the material the day before. I guess the more you go through it, the better it will get.</p>
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		<title>By: Molly E. Holzschlag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly E. Holzschlag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The simple truth is we could never get through everything in one day. Don&#8217;t you agree?
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There is so much to talk about! And yes, there&#8217;s no question that the first day did not have the timing the second day did. We definitely paced the Friday better, based on audience response.&#160; However, the Thursday people got details that Friday&#8217;s children didn&#8217;t get.
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I think a one day workshop is a harsh task. I think two days is better for a workshop model. It&#8217;s not as exhausting as a conference but allows room for discussion and detail as well as the networking benefits.
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The feedback is essential. I always appreciate constructive criticism and I&#8217;m always glad to learn something new.&#160; So thanks.
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M
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The simple truth is we could never get through everything in one day. Don&#8217;t you agree?
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<p>There is so much to talk about! And yes, there&#8217;s no question that the first day did not have the timing the second day did. We definitely paced the Friday better, based on audience response.&nbsp; However, the Thursday people got details that Friday&#8217;s children didn&#8217;t get.
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I think a one day workshop is a harsh task. I think two days is better for a workshop model. It&#8217;s not as exhausting as a conference but allows room for discussion and detail as well as the networking benefits.
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The feedback is essential. I always appreciate constructive criticism and I&#8217;m always glad to learn something new.&nbsp; So thanks.
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		<title>By: Marc Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/comments/carson-workshops-css-for-designers#comment-1261</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It was about 1/5th of the total content that was missed. Rather than being desperate to get out - had it been not-great (as it was) I&#8217;d have been looking for some financial recompense!
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I&#8217;m repeating myself and almost certainly overdoing the posts percentage so I&#8217;ll sign off by endorsing acceptance of the clock beating the presenters on purely honourable grounds!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was about 1/5th of the total content that was missed. Rather than being desperate to get out &#8211; had it been not-great (as it was) I&#8217;d have been looking for some financial recompense!
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I&#8217;m repeating myself and almost certainly overdoing the posts percentage so I&#8217;ll sign off by endorsing acceptance of the clock beating the presenters on purely honourable grounds!</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/comments/carson-workshops-css-for-designers#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;?what I got was so helpful I?m gutted I might have enjoyed being handed further knowledge?&lt;/strong&gt; - I think this sums it up perfectly. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; It&#8217;s only because the stuff we did get was so perfect in pitch and quality that it makes you feel like you&#8217;ve really missed out on something.

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Had the workshop not been as good as it was, we&#8217;d probably have just been happy to get out of there after seven hours staring at a projection screen.
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Hope I&#8217;m explaining myself properly here.
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This is by no means a dig at Andy or Molly as I fully appreciate that presenting these slides to a live audience for the first time would be completely different to running through them in preperation. You can never fully anticipate which parts of the presentation will provoke a response, or how time consuming that response may be.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>?what I got was so helpful I?m gutted I might have enjoyed being handed further knowledge?</strong> &#8211; I think this sums it up perfectly. </p>
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<p> It&#8217;s only because the stuff we did get was so perfect in pitch and quality that it makes you feel like you&#8217;ve really missed out on something.</p>
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Had the workshop not been as good as it was, we&#8217;d probably have just been happy to get out of there after seven hours staring at a projection screen.
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Hope I&#8217;m explaining myself properly here.
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This is by no means a dig at Andy or Molly as I fully appreciate that presenting these slides to a live audience for the first time would be completely different to running through them in preperation. You can never fully anticipate which parts of the presentation will provoke a response, or how time consuming that response may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/comments/carson-workshops-css-for-designers#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone else here attending &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carsonworkshops.com/design-dev/shea/19JAN2006.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.carsonworkshops.com/design-dev/shea/19JAN2006.html&lt;/a&gt; ? Looks spot on content-wise. My only problem is finding the De Niros in time :-/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else here attending <a href="http://www.carsonworkshops.com/design-dev/shea/19JAN2006.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.carsonworkshops.com/design-dev/shea/19JAN2006.html</a> ? Looks spot on content-wise. My only problem is finding the De Niros in time :-/</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sure, completely understood and hope I don&#8217;t sound like I am here on a mission.

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I guess self-employment and paying myself made me a bit more jumpy than some who&#8217;d been handed a day out the office and been paid to go ;-)
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I&#8217;ve no doubt I enjoyed awesome value by the way, I&#8217;d prefer my stance to be seen as &#8220;what I got was so helpful I&#8217;m gutted I might have enjoyed being handed further knowledge&#8221;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, completely understood and hope I don&#8217;t sound like I am here on a mission.</p>
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I guess self-employment and paying myself made me a bit more jumpy than some who&#8217;d been handed a day out the office and been paid to go ;-)
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I&#8217;ve no doubt I enjoyed awesome value by the way, I&#8217;d prefer my stance to be seen as &#8220;what I got was so helpful I&#8217;m gutted I might have enjoyed being handed further knowledge&#8221;.</p>
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