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Content Management Rethink
- Posted on: December 08, 2004
- In: News, markboulton.co.uk
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I’ve been getting slowly frustrated with MovableType (as you do). First off, there’s Comment Spam. Horrible. Last weekend I ended up with over 1000 comments which I had to delete manually. I shouldn’t have to do that. I also shouldn’t have to impose registering restrictions for the people who want to comment to the site.
But that’s not the main thing.
Update: I’ve made the plunge, more to follow once i’ve fathomed out Expression Engine a little more. Thanks to Simon at Collylogic for his advice.
I’m a designer. This is a designers website. As you’d expect, there’s a portfolio. The thing is, MT makes it pretty difficult to do what I want to do with the portfolio in terms of content and stuff. Also if I want to use some kind of content management for clients of mine I’d like to invest the time in becoming familiar with one CMS platform. Now, MT is blogging software, which isn’t suitable for everything. But, I may have found a solution.
Expression Engine is a commercial product, and at $199, it’s cheap but not free. (although pMachine are offering a $99 offer for people who have been running other publishing solutions for more that six months.)
The great thing about Expression Engine is it seems a lot more flexible. I won’t go into all the details here, but here’s a few which struck a chord with me.
- It’s PHP and Dynamic - not flat files
- Its template system is XHTML and fully valid allowing CSS to do the layout
- It has unlimited custom fields for the data modelling. This is great. It allows completely custom content types.
- Customisable backend control panel (a great one for the clients)
So, it all looks very good. I’ve downloaded a demo and working my way through the system. I’m a little bothered that i’ve just invested the time in building this site with MT and by and large it’s working fine. But my main concern is building sites for others, which aren’t blogs. Surely a single framework to do this is the best option?
I’ll let you know how I get on.
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Have you tried Textpattern? It’s also PHP, and as far as I know, they don’t have (yet) the spam problem MT does. I’m planning to use TXP for my future blog.
Nell
Wed 8th Dec 2004
at 2:44 pm
Oops. The link is: http://www.textpattern.com
Nell
Wed 8th Dec 2004
at 2:45 pm
Yeah i’ve tried Textpattern in the past (before I was overhauled this site again). Textpattern is still very much geared around blogging though. It does have custom fields and the like but Expression Engine seems much more accessible out of the box.
Thanks for the heads up though
Mark
Thu 9th Dec 2004
at 12:47 am
Hi Mark, May want to look at the CSS in your ordered list me ol muckeroony or did you mean the text to be larger than the main copy? Me doubts it. Have you ever had a look at Wordpress btw? http://wordpress.org
Graham Sanders
Thu 9th Dec 2004
at 7:22 am
Er, yeah on both counts. I know it screws up, although, need to get that sorted - ta.
Wordpress is still very much geared towrads blog publishing. I’m not too impressed with the control panel interface either. There more and more I dabble with Expression Engine, the more i’m thinking of taking advantage of the cheap dollar and buying it. It only works out at fifty one quid. The way i’m looking at it is it’s an investment in, not only my site, but my existing and future clients.
I’ve been thinking of moving away from MT as it just doesn’t do what I want for the portfolio and other parts of this site - it’s a real hack to get the portfolio working with loads of custom php variables in the keywords field in MT. With EE i’ll be able to have specific fields for all the Meta Data associated with the portfolio (i’ll also be able to add a lot more useful Meta Data to the Journal.)
Along with this backend change, there will probably be a small change to the design.
Mark
Thu 9th Dec 2004
at 7:40 am
I’ve heard good things about pmachine/expression engine, however, in viewing some of their user sites, I happened across this one with the same problem (http://www.blownfuse.us). Close your eyes for the 4-letter words…
Plog (http://plog.bliang.com) and drupal (http://www.drupal.org) are also PHP-based and apparently versatile. MacZealots did a feature on drupal not long ago (http://maczealots.com/tutorials/drupal).
Keep us posted on your emigration from MT.
Leanne
Thu 9th Dec 2004
at 10:53 am
I’ve been trying to see what types of things people have been doing as far as customizing WordPress goes. The little I know about PHP came from playing around with WordPress. It’d be nice if I could get some of the enhancements for it to come straight “out of the box” but hey, it’s free, and there is no box.
I’ve learned some pretty nifty things to do with it. I just want to go a step further and use it to publish my portfolio in the next couple of weeks. We’ll see how that goes, and maybe it might inspire you if you’re thinking about changing the software for your personal site.
I can’t really recommend anything for your clients. What you’ve chosen sounds like a nice investment, being that not all applications are taylored for the novice user.
Fernando Dunn II
Thu 9th Dec 2004
at 12:29 pm
Wordpress is quite extensible - there’s a very large user base and a good community of developers. It’s php, which is good, and plugins take that form. But, like you say Fernando, it comes down to the portfolio - and with a piece of software designed to writea diary a portfolio is always goign to be tricky.
I’ve pushed MT too far with my portfolio here. It requires me to remember which fields i’ve used for what in MT and to also put a bunch of meta data fields, as php variables, in the keywords field. In short it’s a bit of a pain to update and also it makes editing the templates difficult because I have too close a relationship between the data and the php. Expression Engine will hopefully solve this.
I’ll certainly get you posted though. I can’t believe i’m considering this only four months after relaunching!
Mark
Fri 10th Dec 2004
at 1:28 am
Good decision, Mark - don’t hesitate to email if you have any little EE issues you need help with.
Colly
Sun 12th Dec 2004
at 12:33 am
Thanks for the advice and offer of help Colly. I’m having problems with posting comments at the moment though, this may be to do with the comments system in EE, but if i’m behind a fireway (as I am in work) I can’t seem to post comments without first previewing. This stops me posting to your site for example, with the live preview.
It’s more to do with the firewall I think - but weird eh?
Mark
Mon 13th Dec 2004
at 12:46 am
Hmm, odd. We’ve used EE for a fair few corporate sites, where the staff are often firewalled in, but have not had any problems. I guess you’ve looked in the support forums? If not, take a look or post a comment. The speed of support and wealth of previously answered topics is usually enough. I’ll also ask a couple of firewalled folks to test poting to my site.
Colly
Mon 13th Dec 2004
at 10:12 am
Yeah it’s very stange. I only had the problems in the mornings - things were then fine. I don’t know if the IT guys were screwing around with the firewall.
I’ll post a thing on the support forums to see if anyone else has had a problem. Ta.
Mark
Mon 13th Dec 2004
at 11:12 am