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Design, CSS and bandwidth theft UPDATE

  • Posted on: June 20, 2005
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After a couple of weeks the offending company has removed the CSS from their servers and they gave me a call with the usual 'there was this guy who did this, but he no longer works here...' thing. Do I believe them? Not at all. But, in the interests of fair play, I've removed the comments from the previous post and hopefully they've suffered enough bad publicity not to do this again. Am I going soft on them? Probably.

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You know, I think I’ve had every single plagarist I’ve caught tell me that it was “one of their guys” and that they were going to severely reprimand or fire him. 

I guess that’s the industry-standard way to save face. :)

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James Archer
Mon 20th Jun 2005
at 9:57 pm

I think what prompted the guy to contact me wasn’t my polite email a few weeks ago, but the fact that if you googled his company name, my blog post came top along with all of the colourful comments.

Made me smile :-)

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Mark Boulton
Mon 20th Jun 2005
at 10:03 pm

Are, the joys of a good blog post on a blog so well optimized that it out ranks the source site…

Maybe they should employ you to get their site a bit better sorted in the search engines ;)

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Dio
Mon 20th Jun 2005
at 11:13 pm

Mark,

I’m 100% on your side. I would have leased the hounds on them. The hounds being ‘Big’ Vern and ‘Kneecaps’ O’Riley.

That said - as the owner of a company, I can concieve of an employee doing this. If I found out I’d talk to them and fire them. What could I tell you to save face though?  Short of naming them not much I guess.

Interesting problem. Perhaps a description of how it happened or why the theft wasn’t recognized…

I think I’d try to meet you in person in an effort to prove my sincerity if it was a huge kerfuffle. Maybe post an explination and apology along with the redesign.

Any better ideas?

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Sam Sugar
Tue 21st Jun 2005
at 7:54 am

To be honest there’s nothing you can do other than take their word for it, unless you want to take the matter further (e.g. charge them for the bandwidth costs involved). At the end of the day you don’t know whether they’re telling the truth or not so you just have to give them the benefit of the doubt, even if that makes you feel like you’re going easy on them.

If you think “it was someone who no longer works here” is a bad excuse, I’ve also had the excellent “well, I thought if I put ‘written by (author name)’ at the bottom of the article it would be okay” as an excuse for reposting one of my tutorials on a site.

As an aside, if I try and right click on the Gravatar link next to the email address field, the text disappears in Firefox - a bit annoying because it means I can’t open it in a new tab (same thing happens if I try the Option+LMB shortcut).

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Paul
Tue 21st Jun 2005
at 4:08 pm

Intersting excuse that one. Very original!

Oddly enough, It was quite the same I used when a Sony’s lawyer called me about my Oldboy sharing at Bittorrent ^^

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Gustavo Caetano
Wed 22nd Jun 2005
at 9:53 am

Its interesting to hear you complain about theft when it happens to you but you happily steal diagrams from Robert Bringhurst. - At least you then accepted the fact and gave credit where it was due after it was pointed out in the comments in another post. Glass Ceilings and all.

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humbug
Wed 22nd Jun 2005
at 10:30 am

humbug - Normally I wouldn’t reply to such a comment but let me set the record straight.

That diagram was not stolen from Bringhurst. If you were even remotely educated in typographic design you would know that Bringhurst was recreating well established typographic and typesetting theory with that diagram, which is precisely what I was doing. I simply presented it in a way similar to his, which is why Joe rightly pointed out that I should credit him, which I did.

I don’t take kindly to being called a thief, especially by someone who leaves anon details. I’d rather have conducted this discussion on email.

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Mark Boulton
Wed 22nd Jun 2005
at 10:45 am

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