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		<title>By: 平面设计如何影响交互的未来 &#8211; 胡太狼，你在哪儿？</title>
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		<dc:creator>平面设计如何影响交互的未来 &#8211; 胡太狼，你在哪儿？</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] “优质的网格系统能够是你的设计不仅更加美观可读，而且更可用。”——Mark Boulton [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike &#8211; How Print Design is the Future of Interaction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike &#8211; How Print Design is the Future of Interaction</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] 1. Hierarchy and Structure with Grids “Well designed grid systems can make your designs not only more beautiful and legible, but more usable.”- Mark Boulton [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Grid System for Design &#171; Xun and Interaction Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grid System for Design &#171; Xun and Interaction Design</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Ratios and complex grid systems [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Where would we be without the design grid? &#124; MFA Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where would we be without the design grid? &#124; MFA Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] comprehensive introduction -  Article One and Article Two &#8211; from Mark [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ultimate Guide To Grid-Based Web Design: Techniques and Tools &#124; Graphic Design Pro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ultimate Guide To Grid-Based Web Design: Techniques and Tools &#124; Graphic Design Pro</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] aspects of grid-based design and walks your through designing a grid from scratch. Here are parts 2, 3, 4, and 5, and the preface to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CaoInteractive Blog &#124; Graphic &#38; Web Design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ultimate Guide To Grid-Based Web Design: Techniques and Tools</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaoInteractive Blog &#124; Graphic &#38; Web Design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ultimate Guide To Grid-Based Web Design: Techniques and Tools</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ultimate Guide To Grid-Based Web Design: Techniques and Tools &#171; Tech7.Net</title>
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		<title>By: Ultimate Guide To Grid-Based Web Design - Noupe</title>
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		<title>By: Marat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi!
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		<title>By: Mark Boulton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Boulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ben-David&lt;/strong&gt; - Let me first address your first comment post.
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Although the content is not necessarily bound by a page size, the DISPLAY is - and that is the key to good website design.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I disagree. The &#8216;canvas&#8217; isn&#8217;t the display at all, the canvas is the browser window- the user can of course resize this to any dimension they choose. The canvas is also different on different media types, from PDA&#8217;s and mobile phones to Screenreaders.

&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I&#8217;m not too sure about your cinematic comment there.
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Your second comment:
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&lt;p&gt;
You could of course use Phi to divide the page, but for this example I chose not to. This article is very much a second part to the first )if you&#8217;ve read that) and shouldn&#8217;t necessarily be seen as a single article.
&lt;/p&gt;
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The standardization of A4, I dont think, is related to the Golden Section, but (like you say) to square root of 2.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;

Let me just say that this article isn&#8217;t supposed to be a definitive guide on how to create a grid for A4. It&#8217;s just a quick (simple steps) post to explain some of the theory which goes into grid system design.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ben-David</strong> &#8211; Let me first address your first comment post.
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<blockquote><p>Although the content is not necessarily bound by a page size, the DISPLAY is &#8211; and that is the key to good website design.</p>
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I disagree. The &#8216;canvas&#8217; isn&#8217;t the display at all, the canvas is the browser window- the user can of course resize this to any dimension they choose. The canvas is also different on different media types, from PDA&#8217;s and mobile phones to Screenreaders.</p>
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I&#8217;m not too sure about your cinematic comment there.
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Your second comment:
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You could of course use Phi to divide the page, but for this example I chose not to. This article is very much a second part to the first )if you&#8217;ve read that) and shouldn&#8217;t necessarily be seen as a single article.
</p>
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The standardization of A4, I dont think, is related to the Golden Section, but (like you say) to square root of 2.
</p>
<p>Let me just say that this article isn&#8217;t supposed to be a definitive guide on how to create a grid for A4. It&#8217;s just a quick (simple steps) post to explain some of the theory which goes into grid system design.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben-David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben-David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also: your description of how you acheived the red rectangles is a bit misleading/imprecise.
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The red rectangles do not have the same proportions as each single page. They are narrower.
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The imaginary rectangle enclosing both red rectangles and their inner gutters(across the 2-page spread) has the same proportions as the entire 2-page spread.
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It is interesting to me that your use of phi only starts within these (somewhat arbitrary) red rectangles. So on a solidly filled page of text and graphics, the major design proportion is still your arbitrary selection of of that red rectangle out of many possibilities.
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&lt;p&gt;
Why not use phi to divide the page or the spread initially into active and marginal areas?
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&lt;p&gt;

Isn&#8217;t the standardization on A4 page sizes supposed to allow relation of the entire grid to the golden section, or to the family of square-root-of-2 rectangles?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: your description of how you acheived the red rectangles is a bit misleading/imprecise.
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The red rectangles do not have the same proportions as each single page. They are narrower.
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The imaginary rectangle enclosing both red rectangles and their inner gutters(across the 2-page spread) has the same proportions as the entire 2-page spread.
</p>
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It is interesting to me that your use of phi only starts within these (somewhat arbitrary) red rectangles. So on a solidly filled page of text and graphics, the major design proportion is still your arbitrary selection of of that red rectangle out of many possibilities.
</p>
<p>
Why not use phi to divide the page or the spread initially into active and marginal areas?
</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the standardization on A4 page sizes supposed to allow relation of the entire grid to the golden section, or to the family of square-root-of-2 rectangles?</p>
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