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Mark Boulton

September 18th, 2006

The advantage of working client side

You may guess from the com­plete lack of updates here that I’ve been rather busy since return­ing from hol­i­day. Get­ting into the swing of things after a hol­i­day is bad enough, but get­ting back into the swing of being a com­mer­cial designer again after four years at a pub­lic ser­vice broad­caster is a chal­lenge. I’d like to think I’m up for it though. That said, work­ing cli­ent side is an incred­ible chal­lenge and, if presen­ted with the oppor­tun­ity, I think every designer should jump at the chance. 

What do you mean cli­ent side?

I mean work­ing for an organ­isa­tion for their out­put rather than cli­ents. So, if you work for AOL, or the BBC, or Yahoo! or Google, then you’re work­ing cli­ent side. 

As you may know I worked for the BBC for four years, which over­all were incred­ibly reward­ing for a me. It did require a com­plete change in the way I thought about design though which I guess is the reason for this post. 

What’s the difference?

Cli­ent side design­ing (and I guess it’s the same for devel­op­ment) is a little bit like paint­ing a bridge. You never fin­ish. Once it’s done, you go back to the other side and you start again. It’s about con­tinual, iter­at­ive improve­ment. Little by little the product is improved. The bene­fit of this for a designer is you get very unique view of the pro­cess com­pared to an agency/client rela­tion­ship. In a way, you are the cli­ent. The sense of own­er­ship is far greater than in an agency. How­ever, it does have a down­side or two. 

As I said, you never seem to fin­ish. There’s rarely a sense of clos­ure because there’s always some­thing else to do. This can kill mor­ale and, I think, it’s the factor in determ­in­ing good man­age­ment of any internal design resource. Pro­jects need clear edges. Start, middle and end. Go for a drink and start the next pro­ject next week. 

Of course I do have the bene­fit of hind­sight here. And let me just say this isn’t a dig at the BBC by any means, I’m just, well, ram­bling on about things I’ve been think­ing about for a while and now I’m freel­ance some things have become very clear. I’ve also spoken to a few people about work­ing cli­ent side and we all seem to share the same issues and prob­lems, but also the same advantages.

The bene­fits of design­ing cli­ent side and then agency side

First of all, there’s the audience. 

Work­ing for a pub­lic broad­caster in the UK, as is prob­ably the case for any publicly-funded media organ­isa­tion, the audi­ence is pretty much the organisation’s bot­tom line (mostly). Audi­ence approval and traffic is the meas­ure of a site’s suc­cess. Not advert­ising or sub­scrip­tions but what the audi­ence thinks and the traffic the site gets. 

Being a designer within that audience-focused envir­on­ment is fant­astic. It’s all about the end user. There is a flip-side though and I’m sure this is the case for any designer work­ing in this industry today. That envir­on­ment isn’t always con­du­cive for pro­du­cing cre­at­ively chal­len­ging pro­jects, let alone solutions. 

Then of course there’s time. 

Things on the cli­ent side of the fence, par­tic­u­larly where the bot­tom line is a little blurred, run a little bit more slowly. Thank­fully, I worked in agen­cies for a good few years before the BBC and that part of me remem­bers I need to work quickly, effi­ciently and to budget in order to make a profit. Oh, and it’s cer­tainly help­ing for the devel­op­ment of Flow.

Do you work agency or cli­ent side?

It’d be really inter­est­ing to hear your views on work­ing cli­ent or agency side. Love it? Hate it? What chal­lenges do you face every day? What are the real hurdles you’ve had to face and over­come? Who knows, maybe I can help.

16 Responses to “The advantage of working client side”

  1. Dan Mall said on: September 18th, 2006 at 6:40 pm

    I prefer doing both. I have yet to find the sweet spot of how to split it up, but I think that being on both sides of the fence gives you the upper hand. It allows for empathy on each side, rather than being one-dimensional. 

    I really enjoy doing agency work, partly because it makes per­sonal pro­jects that much more valu­able. I’m sure work­ing on both ends has helped you in devel­op­ing Flow, and the abil­ity to work on both has def­in­itely helped me to under­stand the prac­tical lim­it­a­tions and bene­fits of both.

  2. Joshua Blount said on: September 18th, 2006 at 6:53 pm

    I agree with Dan, I think to be well roun­ded you really need to get some exper­i­ence on both sides, although I really love doing reg­u­lar cli­ent / agency work because of the abil­ity to change pro­jects so fre­quently. Work­ing cli­ent side also can mean duldrums from work­ing on the same pro­ject for weeks, months, even years! 

    (Look­ing for­ward to your cli­ent man­age­ment solu­tion Mark!)

  3. Jeff Croft said on: September 18th, 2006 at 7:01 pm

    I think it depends on the cli­ent you’re work­ing for. I always thought I wanted to do agency work because I grew quickly tired of work­ing on the same pro­ject over and over again and the slow-moving men­tal­ity of the com­pan­ies (actu­ally, Uni­ver­sit­ies) I was work­ing for. Then, I came to my cur­rent job (work­ing for an innov­at­ive news­pa­per and news media com­pany) and found that if you have the right cli­ent, there are a great deal of advant­ages to work­ing on internal pro­jects. I think I actu­ally like it bet­ter now. But, a lot of that has to do with the fact that my com­pany has a lot of var­ied pro­jects and a sin­cere desire to innov­ate and take risks—which makes it a lot less bor­ing than some pre­vi­ous jobs I’ve had.

  4. Kenzie said on: September 18th, 2006 at 7:07 pm

    I work client-side, but with the diversity of products I don’t often get the “never-ending pro­ject” feel­ing. It hap­pens, just not that often. I also work freel­ance on even­ings and week­ends to exer­cise some cre­at­ive free­dom. Helps keep the mor­ale high. :-)

  5. Rob Weychert said on: September 18th, 2006 at 7:09 pm

    Hav­ing spent half of my career work­ing client-side, I’ve found two main things that dif­fer­en­ti­ate it from work­ing for an agency: 

    1. The cli­ent is in the same build­ing as you

    Not neces­sar­ily true if you’re work­ing for a big com­pany, but the point is that most com­pan­ies with an in-house design team still tend to emu­late an agency/client rela­tion­ship, with the vari­ous other depart­ments you ser­vice being the cli­ents. So you’re still serving cli­ents in the same way you would work­ing for an agency, except that this cli­ent can come peer over your shoulder whenever he/she wishes. 

    2. You work with one brand

    Agen­cies with mul­tiple cli­ents have the poten­tial to afford you a vari­ety of brands within which to be cre­at­ive; when work­ing client-side, you usu­ally have one. And chances are, it’ll get old. 

    I guess my exper­i­ences work­ing client-side have been a bit more neg­at­ive, but I still much prefer agency or freel­ance work. There’s some­thing to be said for sep­ar­a­tion and variety.

  6. Chris Griffin said on: September 18th, 2006 at 7:52 pm

    I work client-side now, and I pre­vi­ously worked for an agency and I’ve got to say I hate work­ing client-side, but its prob­ably my per­sonal situ­ation. I could see it be more pleas­ant if the situ­ation was dif­fer­ent. Reas­ons why I hate it: 

    1) I feel like a small gear in a big machine</stong> — I feel like what I do doesn’t make a dif­fer­ence. I don’t feel I’m appre­ci­ated either. This could cer­tainly hap­pen on the agency side too, but when you work client-side its typ­ic­ally for medium to large cor­por­a­tion and the more people, the more likely you will be underapppreciated.

    <strong>2) It gets bor­ing eas­ily — Work­ing on the same web­site all the time can get rather bor­ing. Things get stale very fast and that could hinder your cre­ativ­ity if you don’t watch out. Work­ing agency side, the pro­jects change on a reg­u­lar basis and you get to start fresh on some­thing new. 

    3) There’s a bur­eau­cracy for every decision — I don’t even tell any­body my ideas any­more because they get shot down or they get lost some­where in the shuffle. I’m too cut­ting edge for them I sup­pose, for the lack of a bet­ter phrase, this com­pany is so “web 1.0.”

    I will jump at the first chance I get to go back to agency-side. I love work­ing on dif­fer­ent pro­jects and there’s a lot more room to exer­cise innovation.

  7. Mark Boulton said on: September 18th, 2006 at 7:58 pm

    Dan: Doing both has got me in the pos­i­tion I’m in now. When I was work­ing cli­ent side, I really needed the com­mer­cial aspect as well, so, I did freel­ance. Prob­lem was, I enjoyed the com­mer­cial chal­lenge so much I began to need it in my career again. Even­tu­ally, one had to go. 

    Doing both is a great pos­i­tion to be in. It really does span a massive chunk of work­ing in this industry. I’m just not sure, as a designer, you (mean­ing design­ers gen­er­ally) can effect­ively adopt both work­ing prac­tices at the same time.

    Jeff: You’re right. It all depends on which cli­ent you’re work­ing for. The BBC were great, and they do some incred­ibly dar­ing stuff. In fact, industry defin­ing stuff. How­ever, I guess my gripe was more to do with work­ing prac­tice than who the cli­ent was. 

    Rob: Oh the brand! Work­ing with one brand, I found, was a bit of a killer. Yes, I got to know the brand really well but found it incred­ibly dif­fi­cult (espe­cially when you’re deal­ing with a brand with as much bag­gage as the BBC), to push it in any direction. 

    I think my over­all exper­i­ence at the BBC was a pos­it­ive one. There were neg­at­ive aspects to work­ing cli­ent side, but like you, on reflec­tion work­ing agency side is preferable.

  8. Mark Boulton said on: September 18th, 2006 at 8:01 pm

    Chris : I know what you mean about the bur­eau­cracy. I think this might be a prob­lem in the major­ity of cli­ent side work. 

    For a cli­ent to have it’s own internal design resource, they are usu­ally of a cer­tain size. With that size comes the multi-layered man­age­ment struc­ture and the sub­sequent fart­ing around where mak­ing decisions is concerned!

  9. Warren said on: September 18th, 2006 at 10:15 pm

    I’ve worked both, and it’s def­in­itely a ‘grass is greener on the other side’ situ­ation. On the client-side, I longed for some vari­ety in what I was doing, which became a grind. 

    It was only after mov­ing to agency side (and cur­rently run­ning my own agency), that I real­ised how reward­ing being on the cli­ent side could be. I have a couple of cli­ents that I would love to do more for, and have loads of ideas for how we could improve their site, but they don’t have the budget for it. Bar­ring doing free work, we have to tem­per everything to fit, and I really wish some­times I could just spend all day every day mak­ing their site bet­ter, instead of watch­ing the clock and stop­ping short. 

    I’m sure a good six months of it and I’d be look­ing for vari­ety again though!

  10. Peter Holloway said on: September 19th, 2006 at 10:56 am

    I get to work cli­ent side for my largest cli­ent — I have a desk on site — whilst doing other work too. I think it is great. Work­ing cli­ent side gives a greater imme­di­acy to the design work — if the cli­ent doesn’t like it, he’s only a desk or two away. There’s also the instant bene­fits that are poss­bile with small but sig­ni­fic­ant changes to a work­ing web site. There’s also more feed­back about how the site is being used, whereas with one off design jobs you never really know how much it is used, or which bits work best. 

    So I would say that cli­ent side work makes for bet­ter com­mer­cial designers.

  11. Phil said on: September 19th, 2006 at 11:51 am

    I’m cur­rently doing a bit of both in my full-time employ­ment: work­ing intern­ally most of the time, and ser­vi­cing external cli­ents some of the time. 

    Maybe it’s the com­pany I work for, but I actu­ally find that it’s easier to work for external cli­ents: they know exactly what they want before they ask for it, they have dead­lines in their own mind, and a rough idea on just how much they want to spend. Whereas, intern­ally, we get ideas thrown at us that are “urgent” when they’re far from it, and most of the time, they’re badly thought out. I think hav­ing a team in-house has led the bosses to become much more com­pa­cent as to their atti­tude to web devel­op­ment and design… 

    But I agree with you Mark, it’s a good exper­i­ence to have under yer belt, espe­cially if you go freel­ance on a full-time basis, which is some­thing I’m within spit­ting dis­tance of now. Thank God! Or should I be frightened!? ;o)

  12. Mike Stenhouse said on: September 19th, 2006 at 12:22 pm

    To word this another way, I def­in­itely think there’s some­thing to be said for work­ing on _products_. 

    I spent 3 years doing the rounds of agen­cies in Lon­don and while the work was inter­est­ing and excit­ing it was stress­ful and money was tight. Most small to medium sized agen­cies seem to work on very tight mar­gins so they need quick turn­arounds with the min­imum of manpower. 

    On the flip side, work­ing on product apps has been a whole dif­fer­ent exper­i­ence. The work­ing ethos is very dif­fer­ent, with the emphasis on employ­ees instead of out­put. The work can be as reward­ing but tread­ing the same ground can be frustrating. 

    It’s a toss-up! A mix of the both is prob­ably ideal…

  13. Gabs said on: September 20th, 2006 at 3:10 pm

    Cli­ents side :D.. love it.. 

    My biggest prob­lem is always the expand­ing applic­a­tion require­ments.. Day 1 its x and y by the end of the week its x, y, z.. and so on.. 

    This effects both design and dev.. 

    Thats my 2cents..

  14. Jonathan said on: September 24th, 2006 at 3:20 pm

    Speak­ing with my pro­fes­sional hat on, I have worked on both sides of the fence. 

    The most dan­ger­ous situ­ation is when you’re work­ing cli­ent side, under the client’s man­ager, and they don’t have any motiv­a­tional or man­age­ment skills.

  15. Steven Woods said on: September 27th, 2006 at 10:15 am

    I work both sides to be hon­est … on the one hand, I do plenty of work for cli­ents (which is what our com­pany is there for!) but on the other, we’re work­ing on in-house stuff — stuff that is use­ful to us from the per­spect­ive of being able to per­form actions for cli­ents without spend­ing a lot of time — i.e. mass emails, etc etc. 

    So really, I think it’s good to con­cen­trate on your cli­ents a lot of the time, but also to invest some time in your own organisation.

  16. Shani elharrar said on: October 3rd, 2006 at 9:02 pm

    Hon­estly, haven’t had the oppor­tun­ity to work in a brand. but i think that work­ing in a small team is really nice. i worked with a designer as a group and it was good, bet­ter than work­ing alone.

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