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Upgrading your mobile phone

  • Posted on: March 27, 2006
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{title}It’s that time of year again. Mobile phone upgrade time.

For the past year I’ve been pretty pleased with my Nokia 6210. Yes, it’s a bit old and clunky and yes, it isn’t supported by iSync, but it’s been good to me. However, I’m feeling the need to become organised again. I’m also getting slightly nervous about replication of data on my various computers (work, home, and laptop) and could do with a phone which *is* supported by iSync to make things slightly easier.

So, What would you recommend?

I’ve had problems with Sony Ericsson before simply because I’ve never really got on with their UI. I’ve almost always used Nokia phones since about 1997, so I’m pretty much institutionalised with their operating system. For a while there though, Nokia made disgusting phones, which is why I switched over the Sonys. One Nokia has caught my eye though: the 6280.

It’s a good looking phone. I guess that’s why I like it. And, to boot, it ticks all but one of the checklist:

  • Fit in back pocket
  • Looks good
  • Small and light
  • Bluetooth
  • Makes phone calls
  • Camera

Which leaves one big, black mark: No iSync support.

So, what’s a bloke supposed to do? Manually do everything? Don’t think so. Has anyone any other suggestions for a good phone?

Comments

You’re kidding - no iSync support? I was seriously considering this phone myself, until SXSW ate all my money. My business partner has one, and it’s a beautiful thing. I just assumed it had sync support. Bah humbug.

The Apple forums have some tips on how to at least get your contacts onto the phone without having to manually enter them, so that’s something…

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Virginia
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 5:51 am

If you’re hip on Nokias, the new E70 looks like the dog’s bollucks to me. Small, full keyboard, wifi, and just about everything else.

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Mike D.
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 6:10 am

The Nokia 6680 has always worked very well for me with iSync. It’s a bit chunky, though.

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Chris Mear
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 6:16 am

Is the Motorola Razr supported by iSync?  I was told at the Cingular store yesterday that of all the phones they offer with bluetooth, it seems to have the best reception as well.  And it’s pretty.

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Stu Schaff
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 6:49 am

iSynch becomes less important if the phone can operate as a modem for EVDO (and you can get flat rate bandwidth).

I recently dropped my Treo 650 (bluetooth and Synching) for my beat up old Nokia 3360 - I just have very little use for PDA/Smartphone applications - too much laptop, too little need for tiny little applications.

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Alexander Hutton
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 7:08 am

I’m not sure that the soon-to-be-released Nokia E70 is compatible with iSync (you’ll have to check), but it’s the one i’m waiting for. Full keyboard, WiFi (on top of just about everything else) and MiniSD cards (which means high capacities for very fair prices) are winners for me, and the 2MPix camera is the icing on the cake.

Oh, and the MiniSD card reader is on top of the battery (and not under it), which means that the memory cards can be hotswapped.

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Masklinn
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 7:26 am

Check out the Nokia N80.
- WiFi (802.11g!)
- Bluetooth
- PDA
- SyncML
- WebKit/Konqueror based web browser
- Opera
- Hi-Res Screen (352x416)
- 3MP Camera + 0.3 Camera for 3G Video Calls

http://www.nokia.com/n80

[Talk about SEO’ed URL’s!]

No, I dont work for Nokia, just waiting to get my hands on this phone myself! (It not very easily available)

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daaku
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 11:10 am

I can vouch for the N-range of Nokias. I’ve got a N70 which is my life support.

I’m not sure if its got iSync support but it does do a similar job via the Nokia PC suite (obviously no good to you Mac-operators).

It is a damned good phone though, even if it is a little on the bulkier side.

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Si
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 4:30 pm

The one big problem with Nokias, for me, is that the Series 40 phones don’t work with iSync, and the Series 60 phones are Symbian-based, and are therefore remarkable more for the fact that they’re slow as hell and unstable than anything else. That, and Series 60 generally is far, far too cluttered (due to being a smartphone OS).

Generally, Series 40 phones have good levels of usability, at a similar level to the Sony Ericsson (non-UIQ) phones. What I can say, though, is that Sony Ericsson non-UIQ phones tend to have more features, better realised, and at better price-points than Nokia.

If you’re looking at smartphones, I wouldn’t even bother looking at Nokia: their version of Symbian is renowned for being slow, unstable, and generally not very intuitive.

Personally, as much as I like the looks of some of the Nokia phones (the N-series, for example, and the 72xx series), all the phones that appeal to me either don’t have the features I need (iSync support, et al.) or use Symbian.

Disclaimer: I’ve used mostly SE phones for the last few years, save a Motorola Razr (which was really sexy, but utterly, utterly shite).

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Steve Marshall
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 4:39 pm

Ok, well it looks like I can’t actually upgrade until August, which leaves me a while to do the research into the best option.

I’m probably still going to go for the Nokia, despite the lack of iSync support. I’m just not into carrying around a bulky device that can do everything. Maybe in six months time either Nokia or Apple will sort themselves out and support each other. I won’t hold my breath though.

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Mark Boulton
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 6:51 pm

Apple seems plain lazy when it comes to adding iSync support. Luckily others can do the work Apple lacks in. This guy is collecting info and succes stories of DIY iSync scripts.

On Nokia phones:
< blockquote>Positive feedback so far: Nokia N70, N71, N80, N90, N91, N92, E60, E61, 6680, 6630, 7710, 9300, 9500
Negative: Nokia all Series 40 phones, 6021, 6230, 6255, 8800, 8801</blockquote>

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neoguri
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 7:57 pm

I just bought an unlocked Motorola SLVR and it fulfills all of your requirements (which were the same ones I had too), including iSync support.

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Jason Santa Maria
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 8:41 pm

They’re not Nokias but they might be around when you renew: new Sony Ericssons were shown at CeBIT 2006

http://www.sonyericsson.com/cebit/flash.html

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Les
Mon 27th Mar 2006
at 10:25 pm

I’ve been looking at these:

Motorolla Razr V3
Motorolla Slvr S7
BenQ-Siemens EF81

I think they all fit the bill.  The EF81 looks beautiful to my eye.

However, those pesky iPhone rumours have surfaced again, this time int he form or an iPod with phone features. Considering I don’t do anything with my phone except make calls, txt people and sync my address book, I’ll wait a couple of months then buy whatever is the best at the time.

:)

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Ryan
Tue 28th Mar 2006
at 7:38 am

I have some experience with Nokia and Motorola, but I can recommend only Sony Ericsson phones. Now I have Sony Ericsson K750i and PowerBook. I’m synchronizing my phone (calendar, to-do, phonebook) with my PowerBook every day without any problems.

I’m using my K750i like a phone, organizer, MP3 player and digital camera.

My Most using Apps:
- Opera Mini (web browser)
- IM+ (Instant Messenger)
- Maps
- Salling Clicker (remote control)
- Dictionary
- RSS Reader

K750i
- Dimensions: 100 x 46 x 20.5 mm
- Weight: 99 g
- Looks good
- SyncML
- Bluetooth 2.0
- 2MP Camera

You can read some more informations and check apps for K750i on my blog.

Here you can watch my phtos from Sony Ericsson K750i.

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*helmen
Tue 28th Mar 2006
at 7:47 am

I’d give my vote to the Sony Ericsson as well. Maybe the UI has been updated since you used it, because I find mine to be a lot faster and intuitive than any phone I’ve used. I use a W600, and while it doesn’t work with iSync in OSX 10.3, it’s supposed to be supported in 10.4. I can also use it to check e-mail, which is very handy. The built in iTunes-esque music player is great for occassions when your iPod is unavailable (or dead).

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Aaron
Wed 29th Mar 2006
at 4:47 am

I just purchased a RAZR from Verizon which didn’t support iSync. Hacking the plist file to duplicate a phone that I knew worked eventually got iSync working for me. You might be able to do the same with the Nokia. I’ll check out the plist file for phone support and post if I figure anything out.

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The Gimp
Wed 29th Mar 2006
at 4:49 am

Aaron: I’m seriously considering the Sony Ericsson. It’s not too bad and the iSync support may well clinch the deal. Like I said though, I’ve got another six months to make up my mind, so no initial rush.

I just wish Nokia and Apple would sort themselves out. If Nokia are going to continue releasing series 60 phones, why can’t Apple support them? I’m sure there’s a very good reason why not, and it’s probably due to Nokia’s inability to support open formats, it just pains me that I have to switch from an operating system I’m not used to.

I don’t like change.

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Mark Boulton
Wed 29th Mar 2006
at 5:53 pm

Hi Mark

For what it’s worth I upgraded my phone recently from a Sony Ericsson S700i to a Sony Ericsson K750i and boy oh boy am I am happy bunny. It ticks all your list and adds some more: http://tinyurl.com/55g58

iSync
Bluetooth
FM radio
Camera 2 megapixel
Video Recorder
Photo Light
Music Player (you can make your own mp3 playlists)
Memory Stick PRO Duo? (comes with 64mb card)
Speaker phone (useful for conference calls)
Fit in back pocket
Looks very, very good
Small and light
Makes phone calls as well which is always useful :)

Think I missed my vocation in life as a Sony salesman.

Oh and before i forget I sold my previous Sony Ericsson S700i on ebay for ?100 which has nicely paid for 3 months usage.

This HAS to be a winner!!!

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Graham Sanders
Fri 31st Mar 2006
at 5:53 am

Anyone have any experience with the Motorola SLVR and iSync etc?

PS. Your comment fom requires an email address, but doesn’t flag the field with a ?.

:)

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Ryan
Fri 31st Mar 2006
at 8:01 am

I have a K750i and really like it.  Works very well with the Mac - SE still have the best Bluetooth implementation.

If you are waiting until August then the K800i will be available - the 3G version of teh K750i with a 3.2mp camera!

Looks lovely!

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=global&lc=en&ver=4001&template=pp1_1_1&zone=pp&lm=pp1&pid=10407

David

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David Hughes
Fri 31st Mar 2006
at 5:51 pm

Newsflash: OS X 10.4.6 update adds Nokia 6280 iSync support.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/isync/devices.html

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Chris Mear
Tue 4th Apr 2006
at 6:02 am

I would strongly recommend getting a Sony Ericsson phone because of its software which is probably the most intuitive on any mobile phone, and supports applications like Salling Clicker and Blue Phole Elite! I just bought a SE K750i and I couldn’t be happier… I ticks all of your wishes including iSync support. It would be the ultimate phone if the feel of it was more metalic (something like the Motorola L7, which has terrible software), but thats just me. The camera is one of the best I’ve seen. You should check out GSMarena.com and Mobile-review.com for some mobile phone reviews! I do recommend the K750i… Its sexy, yet “smart” too! ;)

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Ivan Brezak Brkan
Tue 4th Apr 2006
at 5:04 pm

I have an N80 and I can tell you that I don’t think it’s supported by iSync because Apple hasn’t signed their sync client yet and you cannot install unsigned apps on an Series 60 3rd gen device like the N80. If anybody has gotten the N80 working with iSync I’d sure love to hear about it.

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Robert Nicholson
Thu 6th Apr 2006
at 12:30 am

soon you’ll be able to install Windows on your Mac (http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/)and then you’ll be able to instal the Nokia PC suite on it. Maybe?

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hbielen
Thu 6th Apr 2006
at 5:07 pm

Did you see? 10.4.6 updated the list of compatible devices for iSync, and the 6820 is on it. Weeeee!

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Virginia
Fri 7th Apr 2006
at 5:48 am

I just ordered myself a Treo 650… Aging a little now but it’s my first toe in the smart phone pool. I want IMAP email, Opera Mini and a decent screen. That’s it. I’ll report back!

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Mike Stenhouse
Sat 8th Apr 2006
at 1:04 am

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